Ambrose: Wind, Obama and the energy answer

It's the Obama hour, and for some that means the wind power hour, a time when this supposedly cheap source of endlessly abundant energy will have its non-polluting breakthrough, but just a minute. Let's visit with Ted Kennedy and learn how he feels about one particular instance of the new dawn.
He's against it. Or more specifically, as news accounts tell us, he has spent eight years fighting a Nantucket Sound wind farm that would cost upward of $1 billion, consume 24 square miles with 130 turbines reaching 440 feet each into the sky, would be unsightly, could play havoc with birds and just might double the electricity costs of the customers it reaches.
Aw shucks, there's no environmental threat here, said a federal agency in the last hours of the Bush administration, but there are more approvals needed, more bureaucrats who could say yay or nay, and Kennedy and other Cape Cod residents are hoping that an Obama administration will snuff out the project.
Maybe it will for one reason or another, but President Obama himself, of course, has been an incessant cheerleader for renewable energy even to the extent that his economic stimulus plan includes $8 billion in loans for wind-power, solar and like projects. Obama mentioned wind power in his inaugural, and on his train ride to Washington from Illinois, he went so far as to visit an Ohio factory that makes bolts for wind turbines and is already booming because of the 400 percent increase in using wind energy during the Bush years.
And yet, if they don't already, Obama and his energy team need to understand that the objections being raised about the Cape Cod venture are not some quirk in the wind power story, but are instead illustrative of a host of issues haunting this purportedly benign instrument of America's energy salvation.
Wind farms kill birds, for starters. In Altamont Pass in California, it's reported, whirling turbine blades have hacked tens of thousands of birds to death, leaving us with fewer golden eagles, red-tail hawks and owls among many other species. Go to Kansas, and the victims are migrating prairie birds. In some places, it's bats that die, and while there are mitigations -- higher windmills built away from flight paths and turned off during peak migratory hours -- it's not clear this threat will wholly dissolve.
Wind farms kill scenery, too, whether it's views of mountain landscapes in the Appalachians or views of the Atlantic from the New Jersey shore. The assault is no minor thing, especially considering how much land wind farms gobble up. The windmills built by billionaire T. Boone Pickens in Texas will spread out over 800 square miles in their effort to produce as much electricity as a nuclear plant, and, by the way, will be far away from his house -- he doesn't want to have to look at the eyesores, he has been quoted as saying.
Meanwhile, building that wind farm will be no cheaper than building a nuclear plant would be. The price tag reportedly will be around $10 billion. Windmill construction is in fact costly, and then we come to another fact. Because the places where it is most practical to generate electricity from wind are far from where large populations reside, the nation will have to construct a new, expensive transcontinental transmission grid.
Enough? There's more. Wind doesn't blow on demand, and this undependability means wind farms are seriously limited in how many times more of the nation's electricity needs they will supply beyond the present figure of 1 percent.
Yes, wind may play an increasingly important role in our energy future, but no one should assume it's an environmentally pure, no-drawbacks and major answer to what ails us.

(Jay Ambrose, formerly Washington director of editorial policy for Scripps Howard newspapers and the editor of dailies in El Paso, Texas, and Denver, is a columnist living in Colorado. He can be reached at SpeaktoJay(at)aol.com.)

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killing birds

you know what, airplanes kill bird too.
I think we should stop flying!

windmills and airplanes kill birds

The saldy simple defensive response to this article submitted by carol Gibbs, above, is an example of the dangerous mindset many Americans have grown into over the past several years. Searching for environmental icons and energy salvations, the new paradigm is that if it sounds green, go for it.

America wasn't just built on coal and oil, although they did fuel much of the growth at a low cost and without our tax dollars doing the feeding and burping.

No, America was built on frugality. On prudence. On looking before she leapt. Really looking.

This year I will spend over 3,000 hours working to help Americans evaluate various electrical energy alternatives. Volunteers from utilities, concerned citizen groups, manufacturing concerns, environmental organizations will feed many thousands of additional hours to the work.

The evaluation metrics include capacity credit (a measure of reliability and availability when electricity is need most), and economics, environmental impacts, land use area compared to capacity credit.

We have models of wind energy systems such as EON.Netz in Germany, which indicate the truth Ambrose gingerly shares here. One of the things Ambrose didn't touch on is the extraordinarily poor CO2 avoidance wind energy can prove. It seems intuitive that if you pump electricity supply into the "grid" then coal plants stop emitting to an equivalent, or at least meaningful degree in response. Unfortunately this isn't the case, and the costs to bring this assumption into reality far outweigh the cost of the sea-to-sea windmill extravaganza needed to bring about significant atmospheric change.

As described at points in the PBS NOVA episode last night, the challenges are enormous, and wind can't meet them without the aid of things that haven't been invented yet, let alone been deployed at a reasonable price.

Sadly, wind energy appears to be an infant industry that will rely on government bottle feeding throughout its lifetime, leaving you and me to change its diapers.

It is actually a lot worse

It is actually a lot worse than that. Windmills need to be backed by other power producing solutions. Typically, these are natural gas, diesel, or coal powered solutions. Since you can't ramp up any of these plants in a mater of moments, they need to be running full speed at all times. The net benefit is zero.

There are certainly plenty of glib solutions to this problem floating around the internet, but none of them have ever been demonstrated to work at all. If you are a pundit, this is an easy problem to solve, but if you are an engineer, this is an intractable problem which has been picked at for decades with no progress.

ROFL...Wind Turbines kill

ROFL...Wind Turbines kill birds? Are you serious? I could start this by going into the many innocent children and human beings George W. Bush has killed in Iraq alone, but I won't go there.

First of all, technology can be put in place to keep birds away from wind farms. I this technology doesn't exist it can be developed.

Second of all, technology can be developed so wind energy thrives on the electric grid. Simple minded people like you aren't capable of problem solving or developing such solutions. I promise you do nothing of the such professionally. With the entire world on board in utilizing wind as an energy resource I can assure you the technology will be developed to make it efficient on the grid.

Thirdly, wind towers and farms have their place on our landscapes. I don't think they should be in wildlife heavy and protected national and state parks. The strongest winds come from the mid-west bible down to Texas. There are plenty of wide open spaces and deserts that these farms can occupy. There are open areas outside of many urban areas throughout the country where farms will work. In addition, wind farms look about 100 times better than the coal burning smog invested factories and electric plants that occupy our major cities.

If Kennedy is against it he will soon be on board or he will be called out on his short sidedness. To argue that farms destroy scenery is asinine. Skyscrapers do the same. Smoke stacks from coal burning facilities do the same. Shall I continue????? I can go on whooooping you up all night. Please respond, please enlighten me oh wise one.....

Huh?

This guy writes columns in 5 states with the largest wind production, and lives in the state ranked about 8th. Yet he says that wind power is inconsequential. His readers must be scratching their heads about now.

Instead of writing something with fresh background, He dredges up 25 year old information about a 21st century industry.

Possible future articles for Jay:
BUMBLEBEES CAN'T FLY!!
and:
IF YOU LOOK INTO THAT TELESCOPE, GOD'S GONNA SMITE YOU DEAD!

You don't know what you are writing about, but that doesn't encumber your doing so.

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