Kennedy signatures might be too good to be true

Dear Helaine and Joe:I am enclosing pictures of a letter I received in 1961 from the secretary of Jacqueline Kennedy along with signed business cards from Mrs. Kennedy and President Kennedy. I had written to Mrs. Kennedy telling her I loved her pillbox hats and was wearing one for Easter - I was 11 years old at the time. Do these have any value?Thank you, K.B., Ramsey, N.J.Dear K.B.:Autographs seem to be of great interest to our audience, so we decided to discuss another one since it seems so appropriate as we near the end of the 2008 political season.John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the second child of Joseph P. and Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy of Brookline, Mass., and was born on May 29, 1917.After serving in the Navy during World War II, Kennedy was elected to the House of Representatives in 1946 and to the United States Senate in 1952. In 1954, he married Jacqueline Bouvier, and was elected president of the United States in 1960. In 1961, John F. Kennedy was a hero to many, and his beautiful wife was a model of chic fashion to young girls - and many women. He was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963.Today, his signature as president has attained almost iconic status and some typed documents bearing his authentic signature are valued at more than $10,000 depending on the content. The problem is that Kennedy signed few pieces of correspondence himself and widely used what has been referred to as "an army of secretaries" and autopens (a mechanical device used to produce multiple signatures) to do the demanding job for him.Autopens have been around for a long time. The first patent for such a device was issued in 1803 and it is said that Thomas Jefferson used a version of one in 1804. Harry Truman is said to have been the first U.S. president to use the autopen as a matter of course, but presidential secretarial signatures have been commonplace since at least the mid-19th century.For the most part, if someone saw JFK at an event, he might give a personal autograph on the spot, but if you wrote the White House for an autograph, the chances are that you received something signed by either an autopen or a secretary. We searched a large number of Kennedy autographs and the closest thing we could find to the example in today's question was an autopen signature Kennedy used while he was in the Senate.It is important to keep in mind that we are not graphologists or autograph specialists, and we recommend that K.B. check this matter out further with someone who is an acknowledged expert in this field. But, we are reasonably sure that the card signed "John F. Kennedy" is not actually in his hand and has only a modest value.However, we have also compared the Jacqueline Kennedy signature with known examples and feel that this signature very well may be genuine. This signature alone -- if proven to be authentic -- is worth for insurance purposes around $600. If President Kennedy's signature turns out to be genuine (which we seriously doubt) the value for this card would be approximately $1,300 to $1,500.In any event, we feel that the grouping -- the White House letter signed by Letitia Baldrige and the two signatures -- is worth approximately $750 for insurance purposes.Helaine Fendelman and Joe Rosson are the authors of "Price It Yourself" (HarperResource, $19.95). Contact them at Treasures in Your Attic, PO Box 27540, Knoxville, TN 37927. E-mail them at treasures(at)knology.net.)

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Kennedy signatures

Unfortunately neither of these cards are actually signed by JFK or Jackie Kennedy. These cards were sent out to the millions of Americans who requested the autographs of the President and First Lady during their years in White House. Both have of these cards have facsimile, (pre-printed) “signatures” and are well known and common in the collecting community. The value of each is ranges from $30.00 to $50.00.

Other items often sent from the White House to the public were individual portraits of the Kennedys with facsimile signatures and some were photographs of the couple together with the facsimile signature of each on the photograph. Facsimile signatures can be very deceiving and difficult to detect unless one knows what to look for.

Authentically signed items by John F. Kennedy are arguably the most difficult to find of all United States presidents. Almost all that are seen for sale on the Internet are facsimile signatures, like these, those signed by Kennedy secretaries, (some of whom became very good at duplicating his signature), and the autopen machine signatures. Many items that have Kennedy’s autopen signatures fool many as the machine uses an actual pen to make the “signature”.

Eighty to ninety percent of all Robert F. Kennedy items were signed by an autopen machine. Rarely did he use secretaries to sign his name, like his older brother, relying almost entirely on the autopen machine.

Harry E. McCormick
harrymc@charter.net
eBay Seller: “harry-mc”

kennedy signature

hi, i read with interest about kennedys signature and yes in checking around there is also alot of fraud going on. i need some help where or how do i go about authenticating a jack kennedy signature whom do i call or see, i found a book at a garage sale entitled the stategy of peace 1st edition with ?? signature of jack kennedy ?? (right) that matches a letter he wrote to a gene conklin? who is he and it is written on a united states senate letterhead congratulating conklin on his recent election as a delegate to the democratic national convention and he is thanking mrs conklin for her assistance in arranging the recepton for (oregon) which is where i live so?? both signatures on the book and letter match, how can i go about authenticating and who is conklin. thank you for your time!

Kennedy autograph

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

RFK autograph

Hi Harry! I was wondering if you would have an idea of the worth of a RFK autograph I obtained myself at a campaign rally in Fort Wayne, Indiana 2 months before he was killed. I was 13 at the time, and the autograph is in relatively good condition, on the back of the ticket I had to get into the rally. Any info would be appreciated!

Thanks
Deb Yoder

Kennedy autograph

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

Robert Kennedy signature

Harry E. McCormick states that "Eighty to ninety percent of all Robert F. Kennedy items were signed by an autopen machine." I have a US Senate chamber pass signed by RFK in 1966 that my friend's sister claims that she personally witnessed him sign. Is there any way to confirm that the signature is from his hand and not an autopen?

Kennedy Senate pass

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

Robert Kennedy, Ethel Kennedy, and Neil Armstrong autographs

Hello Harry,
A good friend of mine has a card with Robert Kennedy, Ethel Kennedy, and Neil Armstrong's signature she acquired while at a zoo. She was 10 years old when she got their autographs.
One week after, Robert Kennedy was assassinated.
We are trying to get the value of this card, can you help us?
Thanks so much,
Rita

Robert Kennedy, Ethel Kennedy, & Neil Armstrong

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

White House Letter

I have a letter addressed to my Grandfather (Francis A. McLaughlin) who grew up with JFK's Grandfather in East Boston in the late 1890's. He expresses his upmost graditude to my grandfather for all his support over the years leading up to his presidential victory. Also conveys his good wishes for Francis's new nephew. Signed by JFK. Dated April 4 1961.

Anyone have feedback?

JFK April 4, 1961 letter

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

robert kennedy

I was 11 years old when Robert kennedy came to the arcata/eureka calfornia airport on his primary elctorial tour, it was may 16, 1968 at 9;45 am. he signed a piece of paper for me, my mother kept it all these years,,,, any info if these sigs are worth anything?? dont want to sell just want to know if should be kept super safe,,thanks

Robert F. Kennedy 1968 autograph

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

John F Kennedy signed BLUEJACKETS MANUAL 1940

Okay, I have this book that belonged to my grandfather.
It was my grandfather's THE BLUEJACKETS" MANUAL 1940.

Inside cover he had wrote his name and E.M.1/c SEA BEES - 1942

In the back of the manual there are individually hand signitures with address.
Kind of like a year book would have been signed, each one different.

John F. Kennedy
Meriden, Conn
Is the first signiture in the back of the book.

Anyone have a clue as to the worth of this book?
Thanks, Johnna

1940 Bluejackets Manual signed by John F. Kennedy

I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. I wrote "Collecting Autographs," published by Messner Books/Simon & Schuster in 1981 and my "Autograph" entry has been in "World Book" encyclopedia since 1984. Send me a scan of the page signed by John F. Kennedy and info about the book (size, pages, condition, etc.) and I will authenticate/appraise at no charge. --- Herman Darvick hdarvick@yahoo.com

Autographs

John F. Kennedy was the first President to use the Autopen in the White House; it's been in the White House ever since. Dwight D. Eisenhower used an Autopen pre-presidential as President of Columbia University, and post-presidential from his Gettysburg farm. Truman never used the Autopen. I've been in the autograph field for over 40 years. If you'd like a free appraisal/authentication, send me a scan and any background you have about the autograph(s) to me at hdarvick@yahoo.com

John Kennedy Signature

I have a signature of John F. Kennedy on a letter to my grandfather who was working on a single women housing project in Detroit along with Frank L Wright. Kennedy was a senator at the time shortly before he was sworn in. What would be the value if he signed and how would I know if his secretary signed. We also have correspondence from Frank L. Wright to my grandfather about the project that are all signed. What kind of value would these have?

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