Maher vs. the pope

I don't tune in to the Bill Maher show on HBO because I figure those who do so regularly bear at least some slight resemblance to the racists who used to show up for lynchings, aiming thereby to vent hateful bigotry and satisfy lust for the pain of others.Maybe that's unfair. Maybe the audiences are just liberals looking for a smug laugh at the expense of people who don't think like they do. But how then do you explain why they would ever return to "Real Time with Bill Maher" after despicable rants such as the one I happened to catch recently on a show taking him to task for it?Making reference first to the arrest of polygamists suspected of having sex with children in Texas, Maher said that "whenever a cult leader sets himself up as God's infallible wingman here on Earth, lock away the kids. Which is why I'd like to tip off law enforcement to an even larger child-abusing religious cult. Its leader also has a compound, and this guy not only operates outside the bounds of the law, but he used to be a Nazi and he wears funny hats. That's right, the pope is coming to America this week, and ladies: he's single.""Now, I know what you're thinking," the comedian said. " 'Bill, you can't be saying the Catholic Church is no better than this creepy Texas cult. For one thing, altar boys can't even get pregnant.' But really, what tripped up the little cult on the prairie was that they only abused hundreds of kids, not thousands all over the world. Cults get raided; religions get parades. ... If you have a few hundred followers, and you let some of them molest children, they call you a cult leader. If you have a billion, they call you pope."There's more, and it gets worse, although all of it is in line with other of Maher's anti-Catholic outbursts. The ones I've read are juvenile, pornographic portrayals of the church as gay men leading deluded fools who have never let go of childhood fantasies.It's true, of course, that it's not just Catholic-bashers such as this culturally influential TV host who have found something awful in the sex scandal that has cost the church some $2 billion paid out to victims. I once heard a deeply religious Catholic man express agony at what the guilty priests did and what he considered the inadequate response of the church hierarchy. He felt there had been a betrayal not just of the trust of millions, but of sacred purpose, of God. Yet he did not assume the scandal summed up the whole of the faith, or that love could not produce a more holy future.And I am at least one non-Catholic who thinks Pope Benedict XVI (who was never a Nazi, by the way) is helping that cause with his expressions of shame for what happened, his criticisms of the complicit bishops and an encyclical mentioned by Helen Alvare, a professor of law, on PBS's "NewsHour with Jim Lehrer."Alvare headed up a commission that worked for a year to address the abuse issue. While she herself felt church leaders had not understood "how deep the horror was for a family," she also felt there has not been an understanding of what a "vast program" has been put in place to reduce risks. She thinks the pope has helped recovery in an encyclical telling church members "to give every human being in your path the look of love they crave, and charity ... and to share not just with your family, but the broader society, to love in a self-sacrificial way."No doubt Maher could make a nasty joke out of those sentiments. Others might get it that while people like him create something malevolent out of past evils, making future evils more likely, those responding to the pope create a great good.(Jay Ambrose, formerly Washington director of editorial policy for Scripps Howard newspapers and the editor of dailies in El Paso, Texas, and Denver, is a columnist living in Colorado. He can be reached at SpeaktoJay(at)aol.com.)

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Bill Maher & views on the Pope

I am a faithful watcher of Bill Maher's Real Time program on the bold & inovative HBO network. I take offense to Mr. Ambrose & his opinion that "Real Time" watchers are likely hate filled or at the very least enjoy having a smug laugh at the expense of others.

I do not consider myself to be a hate filled person, but I am capable of getting up some well deserved ire against groups & individuals that commit great injustices!

I can understand how some would be offended by what Bill Maher said about the Pope. The things Bill said were harsh & I believe he meant them to be. That said I fully support Bill Maher in making needling jokes at the expense of the Pope & his church, since the Catholic hierarchy has done so little over the past several decades to make up for the apalling treatment perpetrated by Catholic priests on the church's most innocent followers! In fact they have first tryed to sweep the problem from one community to another and then once the problem became common knowledge they tryed to hide the evidence under the papal rug!

Certainly Bill's words were very strong, but what true, God loving Catholics have had to witness with their own church is the true crime! I feel that Bill is simply trying to hold the Catholic church accountable for their crimes.

Does what Bill Maher said a few nights ago make him a hate monger? Personally I believe it makes him just the opposite. I feel he is a loving person who feels compelled to expose the sickness which aparently exists very close to the heart of the Catholic church. There is NO excuse for a church allowing thousands of its faithful to be abused within their walls & then to add insult to injury the priests who perpetrated the horrid crimes were protected by the church hierarchy.

My question for the Pope is this: Where was God in his church when thousands of children and their families were suffering at the hands of the church's "holiest men of the cloth."

Why should Bill Maher be punished for pointing a finger at one of the greatest injustices perpetuated by a global organization! Maybe we should be thanking Bill instead, for making us take a hard look at a terrible situation. Perhaps more people will now demand justice as a result.

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