Pros and cons of reducing the drinking age

By BILL SCHACKNER
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Thursday, July 12, 2007

Sarah Rafson and her college friends picked an off-campus bar on her 19th birthday -- and did what in America requires a fake ID or a bartender willing to look the other way.

Legal drinking in Canada starts at 18 or 19, depending on the province. That's why many U.S. college students, including Rafson, a University of Toronto junior from Pittsburgh, automatically become legal drinking adults when they head north of the border to study, only to become minors again when they return home.

"It feels like walking backward in time."

Sure, Rafson says, there are drunken college parties in this city. But she swears she sees fewer instances of her peers slamming down drink after drink than she does in the United States. Her own birthday celebration in November, the day she sipped her first legal drop of alcohol, stopped at a couple of drinks, and she says she's been a light drinker since.

"It's legal," she said. "It's no big deal."

Conventional wisdom in the United States says making people wait to imbibe legally keeps them safer from alcohol abuse. But John McCardell, 58, president emeritus of Middlebury College in Vermont, has caused a stir of late, claiming that an epidemic of underage and binge drinking is proof the current approach doesn't work. McCardell says it's time the United States brings back the 18-year-old drinking age.

Specifically, he proposes a system under which "drinking licenses" would permit consumption at an earlier age after mandatory education about alcohol and its risks. He said the 21-year-old drinking age, the standard across America for almost two decades, hasn't stopped young people from drinking themselves into the hospital or the grave.

"All you're doing is driving it off campus or underground. You're not ending it," McCardell said. "You're sending it to much less safe environments."

There are plenty of people who say what he's proposing is nothing short of insanity.

Those lining up to object include academic researchers, government officials and advocacy groups such as Mothers Against Drunk Driving, all of whom say the preponderance of scientific evidence shows that raising the drinking age reduces problems.

Federal highway crash data indicates the 21-year-old drinking age has saved nearly 25,000 lives over the past three decades, said Ralph Hingson, a division director with the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.

He also said the law has helped curb alcohol consumption among high school students.

Hingson said he shares McCardell's concern about alcohol's toll. But the solution is not to start young people drinking sooner.

Just look at Europe, he says, where lower minimum ages are common, yet adolescent alcohol abuse is generally worse than in the United States.

"There is no evidence that lowering the age here would help, and I would be concerned that it would make things worse," he said.

McCardell, though, said he's not without research that supports his position.

A study published in 2002 by the journal Addiction found that while alcohol use was more pervasive among Canadian students ages 15 to 24, heavy drinking was significantly less prevalent than among their U.S. counterparts.

"It's hard to look at the Canadian example and say things would be much worse here if we lowered the drinking age," McCardell said.

In the United States, there is no national drinking age per se, though all 50 states set theirs at 21. About half had lower limits but reconsidered after the Reagan administration in 1984 said any state unwilling to adopt 21 as its drinking age would lose 10 percent of its federal highway funds.

The experience has been different in Canada.

Ontario, the province that includes Toronto, raised its drinking age in 1979 from 18 to 19, and it's stayed there since, meaning the bars are open to thousands who are a year out of high school.

Both sides of the minimum age debate agree on this: The latest data on student drinking is cause for alarm.

In March, the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University reported that alcohol misuse in college had worsened, and nearly one in four full-time students nationwide met the medical threshold for substance abuse or dependence.

The percentage of students on campus who abuse alcohol is no greater than in 1993, but the frequency of binge drinking has increased. Binge drinking is generally defined as five or more drinks per sitting for a male, four for a female.

Each year, more than 1,700 alcohol-related deaths occur among those 18 to 24 years old, including motor vehicle crashes and other unintended injuries. Drunkenness is seen as a major contributor to sexual assault and other campus crime as well as academic problems.

(Bill Schackner can be reached at bschackner(at)post-gazette.com. For more stories visit scrippsnews.com)

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Alcohol 101

In my opinion, teaching kids the effects alcohol can have on you would have close to no effect on the number of binge drinkers. I am currently a student at high school and we have been tought about the effects of alcohol through DARE in 8th grade and health in high school. To me it seems that these clases have no effect on the number of binge drinkers. The number has actually gone up and even spread to lower ages. I do agree that the age should be lowered becase 21 seems so far away that kids decide to drink at younger ages and then when they are 21, the continue their dinking habits. If it was 18, then it would be easier to wait until it is legal and that way not develop dangerous drinking habits.

lowering drinking

If we lower the drinking age to 18 then more kids would be allowed to buy it. That means tax on the alcohol being bought, money goes to the government, could help us get out of debt that Bush and Obama are putting us in.

I'm all for it, Stick It Too

I'm all for it, Stick It Too The Man.

you go girl!!!!!

you go girl!!!!!

i dont think you should be

i dont think you should be replying for your pathetic grammar skills. where are your credidentials?

"i dont think you should be"

"credidentials" is not a word...

Hell we can do everything

Hell we can do everything else so why can't we drink.

Why do we need

If we can do everything else, then why does it matter if we arent allowed to drink? In my opinion, drinking is not a necessity. Drinking wont get you an education, help pay for bills or get you the top position in a top cooperation. It can help you loose them though. So what if the drinking age it 21? You dont need to drink at a younger age anyway. Some of you might say tht it relaxes you or whatever. That's the same thing that is said about cigarettes and self-mutilation.
In my opinion, get rid of drinking altogether. People really dont need to drink. Having a class teaching drinking doesnt help either. There are already classes that teach about how not to abuse drugs and drinking. One is called DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education). DARE teaches how to resist drugs AND alcohol. Still underage teens are getting behind the wheel while intoxicated.
Not being able to drink is not a big deal. There are more important things in life besides having a Smirnoff at the end of the day. Besides, think of all the other things we are allowed to do. Arent those better than creating the possibility of killing your best friend because you THOUGHT you could handle it?

How old are you? Sixteen?

How old are you? Sixteen? Learn proper grammar, first of all. Second, our country has tried that whole "getting rid of drinking altogether" thing. Prohibition. You might not have learned that, yet. It made the alcohol problem much worse than ever anticipated. I had many more things I wanted to point out, but you are ignorant and annoy me so I won't waste my time.

you waste my time by writing

you waste my time by writing that comment.

your opinion doesnt matter.

It's not a matter of where drinking gets you, it's whether or not you have the option to choose the kind of life you lead. Not everyone wants to have "an education, help pay for bills or get the top position in a top cooperation (corporation)", some people would rather do nothing all their lives. If that's what they choose then it's not your business to judge them, which is why this is America.

In your opinion "get rid of drinking altogether. People really dont need to drink". That's something dictators would say, and once again this is America. nuff said.

CHANGE IT

CHANGE IT

Yall DA's

Yall all some big dummies-18 year olds cant handle all that... what do you want see more drunks than there is already?
or maybe you want to see more of your peers dieing... its just dumb.. yall get a life

many 18 year olds already

many 18 year olds already drink. so why not just leagalize it

you idiot .... yeah we are

you idiot .... yeah we are mature enough to pick our president and die for our country but not mature enough to drink... think about it .... the only reason minors are going overboard right now is because we DONT allow them to drink which forces them to go to parties because their friends have it and they cant buy... think about it. stupid!

If peole say that we cant

If peole say that we cant handle drinking at 18 what makes them think that we can handle everything else we are responsiable for when we turn 18???? America needs to stop making it a big deal so it wont be out of control anymoree!!!

haha

Clearly you should not be aloud to drink. Your not even old enough to know how to speak proper english.

Same for u buddy i think you

Same for u buddy i think you mean allowed not aloud.

what its really about

If you live in an environment in which aspects such as drinking, or anything else for the matter, is common then you already know what its caused by, the dangers of it, and how people act on it. Personally I have grown up in an environment of alcoholism. Ever since I was 12 I was able to evaluate alcohol.Though I'm still in high school I know better then any high school student or teen that it is far too easy to get and obtain alcohol. Since I personally grew up around alcohol, becoming a teen and having a forbidden substance around me, didn't have much of an effect. While other teens were prone to binge drinking and other aspects of drinking, it was never a problem for me. The fact of the matter is that most households are not like that and everyone takes things different ways. But its undeniable that if drinking is already in the persons environment, they can understand it better and therefore be more mature about the decisions they make. Final summation; the age should be dropped to 18. 1. when teens are around alcohol they loose their shit. Its true I see it all the time. They need time to understand how it effects them personally; this includes what types of alcohol effects them, if their a light weight, how their moods encourage and change their reactions to the alcohol, and above their ability to retain control. 2. Binge drinking--being a teen in this time period, sorry, but I have more insight. Teens don't just binge drink to get drunk faster but because there are many factors encouraging it due to the law. Parties biggest factor; get there binge drink before its busted or gone. Second don't waste the good shit! Third that connects to these, and is a result because of this law, they don't know when they'll get the chance again. Since its not in their ordinary environment, teens binge drink because it may be the only chance they get to drink, let alone chug it, for a while. So the idea of "drink it down like its water" is created and widely accepted amongst teens. 3. Both the drinking age and driving age should be considered when on the topic of one of them. For if a person has time to mature and understand their drinking habits, they will know when not to get behind the wheel. By lowering the age it gives them more time to understand their reaction and therefore more time to be mature with the choices they make while under the influence. If a person knows how to drive well and is confident of that ability 3 YEARS before being legally allowed to drink, they have no idea what their reaction will when faced with drunk driving. The confidence they already have could easily become inflated therefor establishing WHY people are so prone to drunk driving in the first place. If people learned to drive at the age now with the same level of maturity as with drinking at 18, there wouldn't be so much controversy. The only way to find out is to lower the drinking age. Leading to my final point 4. in a large amount of countries there is an 18 or no legal age its ridiculousness that its still being just DEBATED here not to mention it is deplorable that we are given the rights to go to war and vote yet not consume alcohol. Any one who disagrees with that last FACT, not OPINION, is ignorant and obtuse.

duh

You're amazing and completely right. I have friends in France and Italy. Both say it is legal to drink at 16 and they are allowed to drive at 18.

You're an ignorant fool who

You're an ignorant fool who talks like a red neck. teenagers do some things because the stat says they cant.. as immature as that may be that is just how it is. Even if they dont stop drinking by legalizing it.. They're still buying it.. which means more taxes, which means.... more money to the economy.
Be an idiot on some one elses page, if all your going to say is.... Ya'll are a bunch of dummies, more drunk driving.. ya'll... ya'll ... you simple minded fool, at least explain your case.

Dont be dissing on us

Hey, you know what. I have to go into the army when im 18 (tradition with the family) and if I want to have a legal drink for fighting for my country and your guys' rights then I would like too. People can drink accordinally, so stop your whining.

I agree amd thanks in

I agree amd thanks in advance and to your family

yall shut up cuz yall says

yall shut up cuz yall says so. and who the fuck says yall? fuckin' hick. shut the fuck up.

yall is the stupid one... by

yall is the stupid one... by saying yall all....yall is a mix of you and all so you said you all all.... and you also spelled "dieing" its actually spelled dying you "dummie"....you call yourself smartie in your name well you are a "dummie" "yall" better get a life

reply

your the dumb one !!! 18 year olds can handle their alcohol. they have most likely been drinking since they were younger. where the hell are you from. the middle of loserville !!!!!!!!

get a life, and learn how to spell " you guys " not "YALL !!!"

Yall all? You sound ignorant.

Yall all? You sound ignorant. The age would not be changed without other modifications in the law. Your imature like most 18 year olds, that is why teenagers and even kids need to be educated and informed earlier.

YALL DO's

Man it doesn't even matter if ur 18 and can get into bars ur still going to drink yall mean 18's in bars is more civilized then them drinking at houses

Don't Lower

All its going to do is hurt more of us americans. 18 year old still live in the state of mind as 16 year olds. They can't handle alcohol responsibly at 18. Not very many 21 year olds can handle it either so why let the 18 year olds?? It will just hurt you in the end. More domestic violence: rape, sexual harassment, physical abuse.

I disagree...

I disagree that 18 yr. olds have the same mentality of 16 yr. olds. I know teenagers of 16 who are more mature than some 21 yr. olds. Don't perpetuate the stereotype that all youth are 'good-for-nothing'. It's simply not true.

And btw, I know some 50 year olds that can't handle alcohol and have no business drinking!

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