Wednesday, March 28, 2007
Total number of veterans receiving service-connected disability benefits according to their percentage degree of disability, 2005. Shows that about 1 out of 3 veterans have minor disabilities. Source: U.S. Veterans Benefits Administration. Totals may not add up due to rounding.
Disability degree Number of veterans Total annual amounts paid
0 percent 14,750 $12.9 million
10 775,854 $1 billion
20 408,667 $1 billion
30 327,007 $1.4 billion
40 246,987 $1.5 billion
50 151,943 $1.3 billion
60 172,694 $2.6 billion
70 153,190 $3.3 billion
80 102,979 $2.5 billion
90 54,161 $1.4 billion
100 228,747 $7.2 billion
Total 2.6 million $23.4 billion
Most prevalent service-connected disabilities, 2005. Source: U.S. Veterans Benefits Administration.
Disability Number of veterans
Defective hearing 423,989
Tinnitus 339,573
Musculoskeletal conditions 300,098
Scars 283,337
Arthritis, due to trauma 272,047
Post-traumatic stress disorder 244,876
Knee impairment 235,158
Diabetes mellitus 220,532
Hypertension 193,055
Osteoarthritis
or degenerative arthritis 162,004
Hemorrhoids 124,859
Most prevalent disabilities among veterans receiving benefits, by era of service, 2005. Source: U.S. Veterans Benefits Administration.
World War II:
Defective hearing
Frozen feet, residual
Tinnitus
Korean War:
Defective hearing
Tinnitus
Frozen feet, residual
Vietnam War:
Diabetes Mellitus
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Defective hearing
Persian Gulf War:
Generalized musculoskeletal conditions
Tinnitus
Arthritis due to trauma
Peacetime:
Generalized musculoskeletal conditions
Impaired knee
Arthritis due to trauma
Veterans who began receiving disability compensation in 2005:
Tinnitus
Defective hearing
Diabetes Mellitus
compensation
What??? You know people like you make me very angry. I am a veteran and I recieve disability. I recieve disability that states asthma, as this is the category that it falls under I actually have a lung disfunction that was caused by an accident that happened in the military on base. I've had an additional two surgeries that were also causes of this. I have to carry three different types of inhalers for the rest of my life every where I go. Yet I only got 30% disability this covers the lung that doesn't work and the surgery and scars from them. Thats only 300.00 .....How much is one of your lungs worth???? The next time you display what others are getting compensation for be sure that you do your research as to if this is the real problem they are recieving compansation for. Are you willing to give up your health for a few bucks??
cont'
Better yet are you willing to sacrifice your health or your life for your country? If you are go see a recruiter and get out from behind your judgement desk pretending to care for those veterans your complaining about. Without US you wouldn't have a job, therefore your pay comes from our disabilities, how about complaining about that.
The Price of Freedom
This is an extremely unfair way to show the public how much money a veteran receives due to disability.
Just to clear it up a little, I am going to break your disability chart down a bit to show a truer calculation.
0-10% disability - 14,750 vets for $12.9 million (that is only $874.58 a year or $72.88 a month)
10-20% disability – 775,854 vets for $1 billion (that is $1288.90 a year or $107.40 a month)
And of course as the disability percentage increases so does the pay per veteran.
And while it is true that 100% disabled veterans receive tax exemptions on some purchases (cars and homes for example), ONLY 100% disabled veterans receive those kinds of benefits. 99.9% or less do not.
I am appalled to see this kind of an article circulating. Our veterans have bravely served this country in war and peacetime. They are willing to sacrifice their lives to this country. The husbands, wives, and children of these brave veterans are left at home for years on end not knowing if they will ever see their loved one again. This is the price of FREEDOM.
Personally, my husband (33 years old) suffered a massive heart attack. If he had been receiving proper medical attention, he probably would not currently have Congestive Heart Failure, a pacemaker, and a defibrillator. His life has been drastically shortened. He will never work another day in his life because of his disabilities, since his heart cannot endure a days’ work. My 33 year old husband has the heart of a 98 year old woman. He can no longer play with our 4 young children the way they expect a young daddy to. He may not be able to give any of our 4 daughters away at their weddings. He will probably not get to hold his grandchildren in his arms. And I will probably be a widow before my last child graduates High School.
There is no reason to try to take benefits from our veterans. Why doesn’t someone push for better medical care for our active duty military members? Perhaps that will decrease the number of veterans who are disabled.
As for the Judge who got his 100%, I agree, that is ridiculous. The VA system is flawed. But the biggest flaw is the time it takes to get benefits to those who TRULY need it.
My husband suffered the same
My husband suffered the same exact fate (heart trouble)while serving a tour. You wouldn't believe how terribly he's been treated and how delayed his treatment has been. This has been very recent and I've not so much as HEARD from my husband or his doctors for nearly a week. i don't even have a clue where they are. I honestly couldn't tell you whether or not he's alive or dead. One thing was made very clear to me however. Because I live in military housing, there is a very good chance that I will have to pay out of pocket to move my family, my sick husband and my belongings across country with no money housing or job prospects. All because he's no longer an able-bodied Soldier. We will no longer be welcome to live in our home even though we pay for it monthly. When my family is living on the street I'll take the words of the critics on this forum to heart. God Bless America.
Disability benefits
Thank you for your support in our veterans and I agree with you that there shouldn't be articles like this around when there are thousands of veterans whom have paid the ultimate price for the freedom of this country. I also agree with you that we need better benefits for our active duty military members. If I had recieved better care while in I would not have the disablilities i have now. I'm a 27 year old father of 2 who can't lift or carry my children or even play with them that much for that matter due to severe a severe back injury that I suffered while serving. Perhaps if I had recieved better care then, then I wouldn't be getting the run around now trying to get disability now for injuries that the military had documented that I had sustained while on active duty. But thank you again for your support and shame on anyone who has anything but respect for our fallen and disabled American patriots who have put there lives and families on the line so that people who post this stuff can have there say when they haven't earned it.
Thank you.
Amen. As someone who has served faithfully for the past 26 years, I to am appalled to see this type of bashing. I would guess that this person has not truly 'served' our nation, despite 'serving' Veterans in the VA.
Are All Of These Disabilities Caused By War?
Are all of these disabilities caused by war or are they simply veterans who have been disabled by any cause? It will be very interesting to hear what the deal is.
The simple answer is "No,
The simple answer is "No, not all disabilities are caused by injuries received in combat". The complex answer is "Yes, they are all war related". The changes we have been forced make to the gear we wear in order to defend against modern weapons, to include chemical weapons, has resulted in the average weight of gear worn and carried in combat and training to exceed 75-100 lbs. The mental stress levels have changed considerably as well as we have been forced to fight insurgencies rather than conventional armies like we have trained for throughout our careers. Not being able to differentiate the enemy from the non-combatant local national for instance. So let us discuss a comparison that was shared with me by a VA rep. when I refused to accept compensation after being injured in Iraq. The amount of physical stress that is introduced to a soldier's body, whether during training "for war" or during actual combat, on a regular basis is equal to or greater than that of a professional athlete. A professional football player has an expected average career peak of 4-8 years before those stresses take their toll on the body and end the athlete’s career. The difference is the athlete receives millions during that time frame and the soldier, well we all know how under paid we are. Now add in the mental stresses that the soldier faces and you have someone that is not “100%” the person they would be if they hadn’t, oh, lets say, fought for the freedoms of jerks like the one that wrote the article leading to this discussion. There are rare cases, I’m sure, where the system is abused. But then let’s not forget how much congress abuses the system, and that’s across the board. And there are some who are injured that have desk jobs, but they still put their life on the line when deployed as well, and they don’t have things like “Worker’s Compensation.” The fact of the matter is that military personnel put their lives on the line and die every day to insure all have the rights and freedoms that they enjoy. And inevitably, some will take those freedoms for granted and use them to express their selfish opinions at the expense of those in uniform. The system isn’t perfect; I challenge you to find one that is. But for the most part it is taking care of those who give more than most, and some who give all, for the freedoms that they enjoy. It still amazes me that it’s those who give nothing, with the exception of a few taxes, that abuse and take advantage of our freedoms. God Bless. A Disabled Iraq Veteran, Currently Serving In Afghanistan
you only get paid for
you only get paid for disabilities that are service connected
I agree with the gentleman
I agree with the gentleman about you being a crappy federal empolyee. No one has the nerve to judge a veteran on issues that my impact his or her life. I'm a proud veteran who recieves disability. This is a just small token to make up for the pay difference most military member suffer throughout their career. You should be severely repremanded for your comment and fired. Unless your in somone elses shoes, do not pass judgement on something you know little about.
Disabled Vets
This comment goes to the sorry individual who claims to work for the VA in St Petersburg, FL; It's pretty clear that you're an uneducated ignoramous; probably a Democrat. You can't spell, your grammar sucks, and your biased demeanor makes it intuitively obvious you NEVER served in the military! You're one of those gutless ice-heads that contributes nothing above the minimum but bitches the loudest when it looks like someone might get more than you. You enjoy getting people worked up by embelishing the truth and exagerating insignificant factoids. Personally, I don't believe your "Disabled Judge story" to be true. If it is, it's probably inaccurate. So he retired in 1970 (a minimum of 20 years active duty), went to lawschool ( at least 3 years of hard study) on the GI bill... WHICH HE EARNED! Then worked for another 25 years. Sounds like he was a very productive individual ALL his life. You attempt to make it out like he coerced some VA Doc into Santa Clausing him 100% disability in a half hour visit to the clinic. Let's be clear about this - NOBODY does this - it can't be done. ALL Vets who've endured the VA disability claims process know this to be true. You are poked, proded, and tortured physically, mentally and every other way. Because the Government/VA is dead set on proving that YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE for what little pitence you might get when it's over. The VA disability process takes months, sometimes years to run it's course and in the end, you get less than what you hope for and more often than not; it's nothing. It's easier to qualify for Welfare and much less hassle. It's assholes like you in the VA system that make Vets feel cheap, like we are trying to get something for nothing. You ever been shot at by an enemy you can't see? You ever been woke up at 2 am so you could run in terror in the dark to try to find a bunker because your compound is under mortar attack? You ever had to sit pondering how long it might take you to die if the enemy actually uses a Chemical or Biological Weapon? You ever lost 6 brothers in one day? Someone should kick your ass and I'm pretty sure that 72 year old "disabled" Vet would be happy to do it. You whining little bastard! You're just pissed because you feel like someone other than you got a good deal. It probably never occurs to you they deserve it because they EARNED IT!!!
Randy Koontz, SMSgt USAF
WMD Specialist, Crew Chief, Flight Engineer
Iranian Crisis/Persian Gulf Vet, 1980
Gulf War/Iraqi Campaign Vet, 1990
Iraq War/Kirkuk/Balad Vet, 2003
Afghanistan/Baghram Vet, 2005
Proud US MILITARY VETERAN, 31 years, 3 months and still serving.
SMSgt Koontz
You are about a dumb fuck aren't you? I know who you are and you are definitely one dumb FUCK! Where do you get off stating you are a war hero? You are more of a pain in the fucking ass, you commie weirdo. Have a nice life ass-whipe, dick-cheese, reserve fucker.
VETERANS
I SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND VETERANS DESERVE ALL THE BENEFITS AVAILABLE AND MORE.
THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS IS DOING ITS BEST BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH.
WOW IM SO TOUCH
JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING ON ALL RETIRED VETS.....YOU DESERVE THE BEST AND EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD SHOULD BE AT YOUR FEET.....SERVING YOUR COUNTRY GOING TO WAR....FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE....I AM SO THANKFUL TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU WHO STILL STAND PROUD!!!....WOOAHH!
MY EX HUSBAND WHO I AM STILL WITH RECENTLY RETIRED 1ST FEB 2008 SERVED HIS COUNTRY FOR 22 YRS WITH 2 TOUR IN IRAQ....WAS TOLD HE HAD COLON CANCER AT THE AGE OF 39....IT WASNT FUN TO WATCH HIM GO THROUGH CHEMO,RADIANTION,2 SURGERY,THEN MORE CHEMO....AND STILL
WE FOUGHT TO GET HIM 100% VA....AND HE DID AFTER 6 MONTHS OF BEING RETIRED.....SO PLEASE FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND DONT GIVE UP...NOT ALL VA WORKER LIKE LIKE SHIT HEAD IS F-UP!!!!1
NOT BEING AMERICAN MYSELF (CANADIAN)I WISH I COULD TAKE ALL SOLDIERS BACK HOME AND SAVE THEM.....I PRAY FOR YOU AND ALWAYS....
YOU ARE MY HERO EACH AND EVERYONE WHO SERVED AND STILL SERVE THIS MESS-UP COUNTRY!
GOD BLESS
FROM A LOVING NURSE WHO RECEIVED 2 MOLLY PITCHER AWARDS!
FOR THOSE WHO KNOW MOLLY PITCHER WILL KNOW WHAT IM TALKING BOUT.
KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND NEVER GIVE UP
VA Rep remarks
Hey, you guy's have already set this f--l straight! However, I am a democrat and tax payer and even I can see that this person is an a-hole of large proportion. He and everyone like him should be fired. We are tax payers! May God bless all of our veterans and current service members especically those in harms way and ther families.I pray that God will also bless President Bush and president (elect)Obama. To our confussed friend. Freedom isn't free and the price isn't cheap and its those veterans and their families that you disgace by your remarks, that pay a large part of that price!
There are always those
There are always those fakers who suck up tax dollars. but there are those in the civilian world too. Look at the welfare rate. You dont hear anyone harping about too much welfare being doled out to nonworking people who have 17 kids living in a slum with their kids starving and not attending school, but the mother is driving a brand new Cadillac...noo....we hear about, 'horrible soldiers sucking up tax dollars'...im a retired but unemployed service member who is waiting on his disability claim to come through. i am still seeking work because im no lazy goldbrick. however in this economy, work is hard to find and i have been denied unemployment. sad to say this but im broke. the VA has also denied me the travel pay to drive the 50 some odd miles to the nearest VA hospital, because, according to them, ' my income is too high'. i am broke. past due on many bills, waiting for the system i fought for to help me...i have no income, but i cant even get a little help for gas money. these are examples of how us ' money sucking vets' are leeching off the system, you st petersburg VA boob!
U S A Military
The Oath with Pride for the United States of America
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees):
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
The Oath of Office (for officers):
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
I guess I dont have to say
I guess I dont have to say anything now since everyone else found better words than me but this typical type of liberal trash still pisses me off. I just want you to know that I'm keepin you in my prayers for something really rotten to happen to you.
See the 14th Amendment-"Equal protection of the laws."
14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3. No one shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
RE: Interesting and Jealous, no Realistic
My uncle served in WWII as a gunner on a battleship. He does have sleep apnea thanks to a ENT(ear,nose and throat) Doc that left so much scar tissue from a surgury to help him hear after repeated exposure to 8 inch gunfire. My dad was a Korean War vet and he had hemorhoids from sitting on a cold steel seat in a tank for days at a time, God rest his soul. A tank he happened to get blown out of after it ran over an anitank mine. Im a vet too. A disabled vet thats had 3 reconstructions of the same knee. The first reconstruction was done at the Navy Hospital on Guam by the way. A vet that cant run and play with my 9 year old son like I always dreamed of doing. I still try and play with him as much as I can. At 37 years old Im going to have to have total knee replacement. One last thing..........for the record, my uncle, father, and I myself would do it all over again. WE are vets.
Everyone deserves their opinion.........many of us fought and served to keep it that way. No matter how misguided that opinion may be.
As Americans we are all
As Americans we are all supposed to be guaranteed the same protection of the laws, and yes that includes the disability laws. It appears that many people seem to think that service in the military is much more important to this country than the man or woman who works in a coal mine and has lifelong medical problems from it, or the firefighter that is injured on the job, or the nurse that has to see people dying on the terminal floor from terrible diseases every day then becomes terminal herself from an accidental needle stick. I could give examples forever, but the simple fact of the matter is that we are all Americans and according to our own laws we are all entitled to the same protections. What that simply means is we should have the same set of rules (eligibility, payments, everything) for everybody whether they are veterans or not. A directly job related injury should be covered exactly the same whether it was in the military or in a civilian job. Currently that is not even close to the reality in this country. Everyone serves this country one way or the other by doing their job. If that person wasn't working in that coal mine you probably would not have power, if that firefighter wasn't there who would you call for help, if the nurse wasn't there who would take care of the sick and injured? Again, I could go on forever, but everyone who works in this country is serving it one way or the other. As far as everyone fighting and serving so people can have their own opinions (even if some think they are misguided), does that mean you and your family were not also fighting for the American Constitution and equal treatment of all Americans? I know myself and many others have fought for that over the years and would again, because we are not just "VETS", we are Americans. We all have many bad stories of terrible things that have happened to us, our families, or our friends and dreams that unfortunately do not come true. But remember, without a country and all those citizens, you wouldn't have any military. Many countries have survived without militaries, but not without their citizens. I do, however, also hope the best for you.
RE: As Americans we are all
You sound like a bleading heart Liberal that failed to realized that with every career field or occupation you mentioned above............If you dont like your job "YOU CAN QUIT" and a G.I. provided this protection you speak of. A G.I. doesnt have that luxury........try to quit and you get a nice long vacation at Fort Leavenworth, on top of letting your brothers and sisters next to you down. Which would be worse than the prison sentence.
Look you have your point of view.......but if you work for the Vetrans Administration, I and many others would feel much better if you would persue another career path. Ive met people like you.....you feel like you have been slighted in some way, for whatever reason. You shout your beliefs from the rooftops because you believe you are "right". Those that shout the loudest are normally the first to p*ss their pants when it hits the fan.
Have you ever heard a bullet go by your head when you dont know the direction it came from? Ever had a woman and a child beg for something to eat, or a safe place to sleep, or invite you into their home because they dont have to live in fear anymore? For that matter have you ever even been off U.S. soil?! Im not buyin what your sellin.
The real issue of equality?
It is odd to me that several people posting on here want to tell personal stories and ask about what one particular person has experienced versus another, but not address the real issue of equality for all Americans. Comments like, "Have you ever heard a bullet go by your head when you dont know the direction it came from? Ever had a woman and a child beg for something to eat, or a safe place to sleep, or invite you into their home because they dont have to live in fear anymore? For that matter have you ever even been off U.S. soil?" First of all, the largest majority of American service men and women have never had most of those things happen to them either. The majority do not work in areas where they are exposed to things like those regularly and we all know it. Just like most American citizens are not exposed to those type surroundings either. Unfortunately, some people like law enforcement personnel and child protection workers, for example, are exposed to many of the same things you mentioned on a regular basis right here in the good old U.S.A. and they do not have to be off U.S. soil to see those things. I suppose I could ask if you have ever ran into a burning building to try to save someone's life or spent any time working at a homeless shelter, but that is not the point. Personally, I know the U.S. military has lots of hero's, but so does the United States country as a whole. Just look at the citizen response at the World Trade Center on 9-11. That has never been the focus of this thread from the start though, the focus has been "DISABILITY." My point is and always has been, that every U.S. citizen should be entitled to the same protections when it comes to disability whether they are a veteran or not. Are you saying that all those citizen hero's that responded to the World Trade Center and are having all types of health problems from it should not be given the same protection of the disability laws as a veteran? Then we have the whole issue of, "YOU CAN QUIT!" Well, so can you, just don't re-enlist. It is still voluntary service and has been for many years now. Are you trying to tell me you thought you were just going to hang around a base all the time and never see anything possibly dangerous or bad when you enlisted? That is like me taking a job as a cook, but never thinking I am going to have to be in the kitchen. Did you voluntarily sign up with your eyes open or your eyes shut? If you are just into serving your country, their are several different ways you can do that right here in this country. You also act as if the average American is so wealthy that if they have a dangerous job or a job they do not like, they can just quit at any time. Most people can not, until they find something else to pay the bills and it is not nearly as easy as you portray it to be either. Now that we have all those issues addressed, the answer to ALL of your questions is "YES!" I have seen much more than most and never "p*ssed my pants" as you phrased it, but again, that is not the point. Finally, your comment that a G.I. provided the protections that I speak of. Yes, many veterans have sacrificed and so have many every day Americans. I appreciate them all and every American who have served this country whether as a construction worker building a hydro-electric plant,an infantry soldier, or any other job in this country. It is not just veterans that have provided those freedoms, we all have. If you didn't have the citizens and the infrastructure, you would not have or need the military. All Americans should be given equal treatment when it comes to disability laws like the Constitution states, it is that simple. I guess if I sound like a bleeding heart liberal then so be it, but I happen to think I sound like someone who believes in what America is supposed to stand for.
RE: Back to the real issue of equality
This will be short and sweet.
You REFUSE to address the question as to whether you have SERVED in any capacity in the armed forces. If you really believe the crap your spouting forth, then quit being spineless and answer all the questions we have put forth to you and not just the ones that that you can tapdance around.
I'll go ahead and say what everyone else wants to say.
Blow it out your ass.
Go back to mommys basement. Find another career that doesnt have anything to do with the VA. You are a malignant cancer to the Vetrans Administration, and are a shining example as to why brave and honorable vetrans cannot get the care and support that they have earned many times over.
You sir are a coward. If you want to shout this retoric from the rooftops, fine, but have a backbone and answer all the questions presented to you.
HAVE YOU SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN ANY CAPACITY?
If so, say so. If not.............SHUT THE HELL UP!
Once again. "NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT, THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE" I seem to be getting sucked in again.
God bless every one of my brave brothers, sisters, and their families who have fought, died, and sacrificed so much in order for Mr Discruntled VA Rep to have his (or her)views. God Bless America.
God Bless America indeed!
God Bless America indeed! Land of the FREE: Free to speak our mind and not needing your permission or anyone elses to do so, thank the Heavens! Land of the Brave: Not only does that include all the veterans that have served this country, but it also includes all the women, all ethnic groups, gays/lesbians, people with disabilities, and anyone else that has ever fought for equal treatment of all citizens of this country. You should consider who all you are calling a coward by spouting off with your angry comments towards someone who is advocating nothing more than equality for all Americans! SO WHO IS THE REAL IDIOT HERE?
RE: god bless america indeed
Your refusal to answer a simple question about whether or not you have been in the military is answer enough. We will take that as a no. Why so afraid to answer the question directly I wonder.........hhhhhmmmmmmmm
If you havent experienced it you cant really pontificate on what you "know" can you?
Forgive me, it seems I have caused you undue emotional distress by comments I made about your idiocracy. I think you will live.
Yes this is a free country. A luxury vetrans have provided and protected.
The luxury of freedom was given to you by selfless men and women, and you dont have the grace to even say thank you. Also, make no mistake about it. It was provided by the armed forces.
Your like my daughter.....the more your given, the more you feel you are owed. Im not saying anythig bad about my daughter but she is a child. Children normally behave this way. Thats why as parents we tell them, "no, you are behaving badly, dont act this way". I digress.
Vetrans have and always will deal with a selfish portion of the public that feels they have a sense of entitlement.
In closing.
I will admit that as we have engaged in this enlightening banter, you have become a suprisingly entertaining little person.
Discussion was about disability, not personal life experience!
The entire point of this discussion never was or has been to list our qualifications. After all, you do not have to be an M.D. to discuss medical issues do you? I'm sure you have never complained about anything to do with the medical field though, right? Besides, when you start addressing individual specifics and stories, you lose sight of the overall problem or issue and narrow the focus. You may assume whatever you choose, even though you have been surprisingly and consistently incorrect up to this point. This is just another issue that is touching several Americans lives daily and the lack of equality between the veterans disability system and the disability system for the rest of the citizens of this country needs to be addressed. I'm confident that the A.C.L.U. will be addressing the issue in the near future and making it equal protection of the laws for all citizens of this nation as it should be though. I have always thanked the countless Americans that have provided this freedom of speech. The difference is that I know that was not just provided by veterans, it was provided by all Americans that have worked to better this country in various ways. I know you probably don't understand this, but next time someone is giving a speech or having an event that causes quite a bit of people to become upset, watch on the news and see if "the military" is there to guarantee that right. I could also suggest many good readings regarding resistence movements during times of conflict and surprisingly those people were not vets either, but you would not read them anyway. While veterans should be thanked for the service they have given (and I have said that several times), they are not, nor have they ever been the only ones that provided all these freedoms. In the beginning it was citizen armies and people willing to speak out against injustices. Much of it is the same today. Your comments about someone acting like a child and a sense of entitlement are interesting, the only thing is that you appear to have who is acting that way confused. During comments on here and in other functions regarding this issue besides this forum, many veterans have said they should get all these disability benefits because they are entitled to them and I am sure you are aware that veterans groups are always fighting for more benefits. I have never said they should not be entitled to the benefits they receive and possibly even more, if they can show the injury was directly related to "the job." However, all other Americans should also be entitled to the same. Read the comments on here and see who is claiming an "entitlement?" Which also fits your argument of the more you give a child the more they want. I would not of used the analogy, however, you did so it needed to be addressed. The reality of it is that if it was an equal system for all, their would be nothing to argue about. Which is the biggest surprise of all, that it seems everyone on here does not want equal protection of the laws and equal sytems for all the citizens of this country. If you are going to represent yourself as a patriot, that is fine. However, you need to support the entire country, not just things that directly effect you and your family.
I'm not going to argue with
I'm not going to argue with you. BUT, I will offer some advice. If you want the answer to your "equality for everyone" question, educate yourself on each of the different jobs that you mentioned, INCLUDING the military. Every BRANCH of the military. Better yet, volunteer to serve. It's the best way to learn. And, while you're at it, use your GI Bill go back to school and learn the proper context of using the words THEIR, THEY'RE, THERE, YOUR, YOU'RE, etc..... Once you learn, you can begin your assault on teachers, and what they get that other people don't. Like having the summer off. Cry me a river..... Be thankful for your job, too. I hear that THEY'RE hard to come by lately....
Cry me a river!
Thanks for the attempted English lesson and advice, although it is still not relevant to the discussion. It is also odd to me that everyone on here seems to want to make rude remarks and become negative. Rather than address the issues, they point out things that do not have anything to do with the general point of the discussion which is inequality of disability benefits. I can only guess that it is because nobody has realistic answers to many of the questions I have posed. I know that I never claimed to know what all those different jobs entailed, like many people on here have previously claimed. Nobody should be required to know what each job in this country requires. All they should have to know is that as American citizens we are all entitled to the same protection of the laws and equality. My advice is for everyone to stand up for equality of all citizens of this country and what is right!
Waste of time
You sir are an ASS of the first order.
Were you in the military? That doesnt include washing out of basic.
Before you say its not relevent, it is 100% relevent. Dont tapdance around the question with a buch of crap. Just answer the question.
You refuse to answer this because you know it will make everything you have said complete bullshit. Theres your english lesson.
Answer yes or no if you can wash the yellow off your back long enough to get the word out.
You also dont know the difference in the "Constitution of the United States" and the "Bill of Rights". You may want to check that out.
This is why your a waste of time.
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