Submit or die: An offer infidels can't refuse?

By CLIFFORD D. MAY
Many commentators have noted the apparent irony: The pope suggests Islam encourages violence _ and Muslims riot in protest.

Many commentators have pointed out the apparent hypocrisy: Muslims are outraged by cartoons satirizing Islamic extremism while in Muslim countries Christianity and Judaism are attacked viciously and routinely.

Many commentators are missing the point: These protestors _ and those who incite them _ are not asking for mutual respect and equality. They are not saying: "It's wrong to speak ill of a religion." They are saying: "It's wrong to speak ill of our religion." They are not standing up for a principle. They are laying down the law. They are making it as clear as they can that they will not tolerate "infidels" criticizing Muslims. They also are making it clear that infidels should expect criticism _ and much worse _ from Muslims.

They are attempting nothing less than the establishment of a new world order in which the supremacy of what they call the Nation of Islam is acknowledged, and "unbelievers" submit _ or die. Call it an offer you can't refuse.

If you don't understand this, listen harder. In London, Anjem Choudary told Muslim demonstrators that Pope Benedict XVI deserves to be killed for daring to quote a Byzantine emperor's description of Islam as a religion "spread by the sword."

"The Muslims take their religion very seriously," Choudary explained as if to a disobedient child, "and non-Muslims must appreciate that and must also understand that there may be serious consequences if you insult Islam and the prophet. Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

Iraqi insurgents _ some Europeans admiringly call them "the resistance" _ posted on the Internet a video of a scimitar, a symbol of Islam, slicing a cross in half. It would be a stretch to interpret this as a plea for interfaith understanding.

In Iran, the powerful imam Ahmad Khatami said the pope "should fall on his knees in front of a senior Muslim cleric." In no culture of which I am aware is that a posture from which brother addresses brother.

Dr. Imad Hamto, a Palestinian religious leader, said: "We want to use the words of the Prophet Muhammad and tell the pope: 'Aslim Taslam' "

The Israeli Arab journalist Khaled Abu Toameh explained: "Aslim Taslam is a phrase that was taken from the letters sent by the Prophet Muhammad to the chiefs of tribes in his times in which he reportedly urged them to convert to Islam to spare their lives."

It is not only those readily identified as extremists who voice such views. The prime minister of Malaysia, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, seemed to strike a conciliatory note, saying that the pope's expression of regret for his remarks was "acceptable." But he added: "(W)e hope there are no more statements that can anger the Muslims."

Similarly, on National Public Radio, a George Washington University professor, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, argued that statements such as those quoted by the pope _ expressing sentiments some Muslims may find offensive _ must be viewed as a form of violence.

Is the Western ideal of freedom of speech and of the press threatened? Of course. But that's only part of what is at work here. More significantly, Americans and Europeans are being relegated to the status of a dhimmi _ the Arabic word applied to those conquered by Muslim armies between the 7th and 17th centuries. Based on shari'a law, dhimmis are meant to "feel themselves subdued," to acknowledge their inferiority compared to Muslims.

In some ways, we already have done so. For example, Muslims are welcome in the Vatican, even as Christians are banned from setting foot in Mecca. We do not object to Saudis building mosques in America and Europe even as they prohibit churches and synagogues on Arabian soil.

We pledge to abide by the Geneva Conventions when waging wars against Muslim combatants. We expect those combatants to follow the same rules. They are engaged in a jihad and they will show no mercy to infidel soldiers or even to infidel journalists. The "international community" does not seriously protest. With our silence, we consent to inequality.

Most of the world's Muslims are neither rioting nor calling for the death of the pontiff. But quite a few may reason that if Christians and Jews haven't the confidence to reject dhimmitude and defend freedom, they would be foolish to stick their necks out. After all, a Muslim who challenges the Islamic extremeists brands himself as an apostate _ as deserving of death as any uppity pope.

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Bravo, bravo. At last, a

Bravo, bravo. At last, a columnist with the courage to print the truth for all to see.

Dhimmitude

The rush on the part of Western elites to betray the core principle of free speech has little to do with a sort of washy political correctness and everything to do with the left's instinctive understanding that free speech costs them power. Their gut tells them the same thing it tells the imams--that in a Fairness Doctrine kind of universe, their odds of supremacy improve considerably. The adventure of the Danish cartoons showed us there is already an elite consensus that a posture of submission on such matters--ostensibly based in "sensitivity"--makes it considerably easier to limit and shut down the exercise of free speech in general, particularly useful when it comes to those pesky democratic elections and the like.

Submit or die

Facing an Unpleasant Reality

The fear of facing the unpleasant reality by naming the current conflict is very strong.The current conflict between Islam and the rest of the world can be summarize thus: jihad (the forced conversion of all of nonbelievers to Islam) is required by all Moslems. Moslems are encouraged to lie to secure their desired objectives i.e. jihad. Allah's command for jihad cannot be modified. If you accept this summary as accurate than "submit or die" is your only nonviolent response. You can't negotiate with Islam because anything they say can not be believed. Leon Uris in the Haj said it best "the Arabs are either at your throat or your feet". They are currently at our throats. For those of us who do not wish to "submit or die" the only response will be a violent one. Currently America is the most overwhelmingly powerful military force in the history of the world. It takes very little imagination to see the sword of Islam removed from our collective throats. The Question of Our Time is HOW MANY MUSLIMS NEED TO DIE BEFORE THEY GIVE UP JIHAD?.

Submit or die: An offer infidels can't refuse?

Islam is a joke. You tell me what has Mohammed brought that has improved the lot of the Muslim world? Spain, population of 60 million. GNP $800 billion. Spain has published more books last year than Islam has published in the last 1000 years. Plus, the combined GNP of the Muslim world is $500 billion. The Muslim speaks of some sort of superiority of faith, but has yet to prove it on paper or in real life. Islamic despots, dictators, muftis, oppression. Name one good Islamic country, and you will find repression. Islam is only stoking the wrath of the West that has layed dormant since WWII. It has a nasty habit of vengeance.

Death before submission

Islam must change or die.

Submit or Die? How 'bout Tell the Truth and Live!

It's about time the Western media started telling the truth about Islam...or the freedom of speech that they take for granted will only guarantee them a 'first in line' spot on the beheading block.

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